"Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo" (akioohtori)
07/15/2020 at 00:01 • Filed to: None
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"Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo" (akioohtori)
07/15/2020 at 00:01 • Filed to: None | 4
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A friend of mine had his car (2003 Park Avenue Ultra) overheat pretty catastrophically the other day. Today we took a look. Started by filling it up with water and the problem was immediately apparent.
What I really love about Kinja is if you crop the image it strips the rights information out because fuck you.
Boop.
Apparently this is a common problem on the GM 3.8L V6. So common, in fact, that the local parts shop had upgraded replacements in stock. Worryingly the replacement kit comes with two, but I sure can’t find a second one...
Hopefully no permanent damage to the engine and also hoping for an easy repair...
UPDATE - 12AM Kinja Standard Time
Fix wasn’t as straightforward as hoped, but was OK. Turns out the two elbows (found the 2nd 0ne) run through the alternator bracket for... reasons? I can think of several better ways to do this but I’m sure this was cheaper. Either way, the alternator and belts had to come off to get the bracket and old elbows out. Luckily that was pretty trouble free coming out, and a little bit of lube got them back in pretty easy too.
I bought a little table and I like it.
“While we were in there” we went ahead and replaced the absolutly DESTROYED supercharger idler pulley that had grenaded itself years ago but wasn’t a priority to fix.
No I have no idea where the rest of it is. This is all that was left!
Fired the car up, bled the system, and we seem to be in good shape!
Tomorrow we’ll drain and refill with coolant.
dogisbadob
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
07/14/2020 at 20:52 |
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there will be no damage
One piece of advice: Don’t use the O-rings that come with the new metal elbows! Replace them with OEM O-rings
I also found this video regarding the 2 elbows:
ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
07/14/2020 at 20:53 |
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That looks like it would’ve been a spectacular failure to capture with a well-placed go pro.
PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
07/14/2020 at 20:55 |
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Gotta love plastics in the cooling system! Don’t get me wrong, plastic can perform admirably but something tells me ‘00 GM wasn’t killing it in this department.
Did it run long after this failure? What temps were seen on the gauge (is there a real gauge?) before shutdown?
Nibby
> dogisbadob
07/14/2020 at 21:00 |
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o shit
WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
> PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
07/14/2020 at 21:03 |
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Hell the generation of Silverado/Sierra/Tahoe/Yukon that ran until 2018 has a huge problem with coolant lines going bad. Yet to be seen if the new ones still have it, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
Like half of the trucks in the service center at the dealer I worked at was for it.
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PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
> WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
07/14/2020 at 21:04 |
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Good job GM, nobody wants a reliable coolant system!
VincentMalamute-Kim
> dogisbadob
07/14/2020 at 21:16 |
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Who TF designs a cooling system that uses the tensioner as part of the piping?!
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dogisbadob
> VincentMalamute-Kim
07/14/2020 at 21:23 |
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not every car can be as good as Toyota :p
pip bip - choose Corrour
> VincentMalamute-Kim
07/14/2020 at 21:24 |
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Idiots at General Motors
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WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAnowbacktoGTI
> PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
07/14/2020 at 21:26 |
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To be fair, the 5.3 and 6.2 can actually run without coolant for a FAR longer time period than should be expected.
GM small blocks: good (unless they have cylinder deactivation)
Everything e lse: meh
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> pip bip - choose Corrour
07/14/2020 at 21:28 |
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Was there any semblance of a thought process? I’d love to know what they were thinking.
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pip bip - choose Corrour
> VincentMalamute-Kim
07/14/2020 at 21:59 |
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Thinking and GM are mutually exclusive
Urambo Tauro
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
07/14/2020 at 22:11 |
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Hey it lasted the warranty period, what more do you expect from GM
AMGtech - now with more recalls!
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
07/14/2020 at 22:28 |
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I did so many of these back in the day! Easy money for the shop, cheap and easy fix for the client. The video linked in the comments is pretty good too.
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Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> dogisbadob
07/15/2020 at 00:02 |
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Oops. Saw this comment AFTER we already put it back together...
Also found that video helpful, thank you. This one was pretty good too:
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Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
07/15/2020 at 00:05 |
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Uhh... probably a while. He was in a construction zone so he just had to roll with it. Apparently it shut itself off right after he parked. He’d indicated he saw at least 220F, but won’t tell me the exact number because I would “freak out” haha. Car was a little grumpy on restart but sounds OK now. :fingers crossed:
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Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> AMGtech - now with more recalls!
07/15/2020 at 00:05 |
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Yeah it wasn’t bad. Good access and reasonably straight forward.
Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
07/15/2020 at 00:22 |
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Those supercharged Park Avenues are great cars. Great engines too. They can take lots of abuse.
415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°)
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
07/15/2020 at 03:57 |
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Yeah you need 50% more of that... I’m so baked....
Long_Voyager94
> VincentMalamute-Kim
07/15/2020 at 07:06 |
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Probably the same type of morons who put a starter under the intake manifold in the V.......
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VincentMalamute-Kim
> Long_Voyager94
07/15/2020 at 13:38 |
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That’s still better than...
Sometime I plan to replace the starter on my Audi. This after step 1 through step 598 of gaining access to the starter :
That photo doesn’t help at all in
getting me
motivated to begin
.